Board Thread:Versus Battles/@comment-37583355-20190811094542/@comment-25603146-20190814010209

Well, that's high-balling each AP, anyways, which works well enough for these purposes given the circumstances.

What are Apeironegation's best feats of working? The Tiphareth couldn't be nullified/over-written by Samael- the Big Bad of the verse, who exists as an infinite-in-scale force way up in the eleventh Sphere of reality- from essentially the moment he got powers at all. I'm pretty sure it can negate anything cheeky like an attempt at an Attack Reflection, but from what I'm seeing, I'm not finding any reason to believe that it can negate the False Envoy's regen.

I mostly ask because, since this is after Zain acquires the Devil Mystery/trains with it against Keiwa to take the Totsuka-no-Tsurugi from him mid-battle, it's pretty in-character for him to just steal Astral Breaker if it becomes at all obvious that its an obscenely powerful weapon (in particular, compared to Olierus himself.) Wouldn't be his opening move, obviously, prior to Act V it's usually "Throw on Blade-Metamagic Offense spell and enter melee", but Olierus's Astral Breaker seems to have no special resistance either to that or to him using The Lovers to conceptually tether it to himself as a shared aspect such that Olierus can't call it back without trying to punch through his Concept Manip. resistance. If its own attacks can inflict unhealing wounds upon its normal wielder (Olierus), used against him nothing would change, no?

...Hmmm. The regen being Low-Godly only, and the fact that he just got the Daathe/The Tower/Moon Mystery, means that Existence Erasure's at least potentially on the board, but his actual offensive capabilities are a lot less potent than his resistances with the Sephiroth. If he'd want to use something of that magnitude offensively, he'd have to find an Idea Fracture resulting from some particular aspect of Olierus's being. The Chesed probably wouldn't like the arbitrary designation of various aspects of the world as "orderly" or "chaotic" when each can (and will, as Olierus's own story can attest to) lead into the other given time. Removing the concept of "chaos" from reality by default makes the Astral Breaker itself an Idea Fracture of massive proportions, as well, and the corrupting stain it's left on Olierus himself leads me to believe he'd be considered as having such as well.