Board Thread:Versus Battles/@comment-37173421-20190417135700/@comment-24900075-20190423011943

Jesus christ what the hell?

You're just going to reach a decision without even attempting to consult the original person on an already controvertial page that you guys very clearly expressed confusion over?

"You admitted Final Mebius is Tier 0, despite saying he didn't have tier 0 hax? Please clarify. It would be best to list such on the profile."

Never did. What? I said he drew power from a Tier 0, allowing him to 1-shot hilariously high 1-A level beings with absolutely no redraw. Again, the only time when he's ACTUALLY tier 0 is when he isn't Neo Mebius anymore. He's an entirely different character at that point.

"You countered my claim that his connection to a Tier 0 was very vague by providing quotes of how vague that connection was. It would be best to clarify on the profile."

Clarify something that's explicitly said to be, in-verse, vague on purpose?

"It is in the very rules that, for higher tiered characters, that you describe and justify there things. But there's nothing. The page has very, very little about the entire subject you're covering. Tier 0 connection? Description on the profile is incredibly limited. Essence? The profile's description of it is summed up to 'it's not defined'. That's not allowed. Especially for someone with Tier 0 hax, you have to define your character's abilities, which Neo's profile lacks completely. It's impossible to debate when you can pull any description or definition out of nowhere, because the profile has nothing at all. And you've shown this! When debating why Neo should be allowed, you said Neo didn't have Tier 0 capabilities, then you turned around and said Final Mebius drew upon Tier 0 powers. How much of this is on the profile? Little. Maybe none."

Okay, jeez, a lot of things.

Tier 0 Connection is only an explanation for why he has such a high level of EE. That's it. That's his connection, he uses this power to... power his strongest hax. Besides a few other not very notable things, his connection to this Tier 0 is completely moot.

I have explained this "essence" to you multiple times; What his essence is does not matter. He has no soul, so any Soul Manipulations won't work. His Essence is undefined but is his closest equivalent to a soul, not that it actually is his soul. It's a very clear distinction that's made. The only reason why Essence keeps being brought up is because you keep bringing it up.

He doesn't have Tier 0 hax.

Define what abilities? The fact that he has an attack that EE's 1-As with no problems at all? I never pulled any descriptions or definitions out of nowhere, everything is on his profile if you bothered to look at it.

I said he drew upon Tier 0 Powers. I also said that it's an entirely major plot point that he never actually uses it as Tier 0 Powers and that the only time he actually uses it as Tier 0 is when he ceases to even be himself.