Board Thread:Versus Battles/@comment-26429591-20190129042054/@comment-24900075-20190306045022

Okay so main stats.

Attack Potency:

Uhh Okay lemme try to understand this...

Dark Countess (Serious) > Dark Countess (Casual) > SSBE 4 Gogito + Vogeta > Xeno Goku, Xeno Vegeta, CCI Goku, CCI Vegeta, A.U Vegeta(x2), A.U Goku(x2) (All in Base) > SSBE4 Gogito > Standard DBH Scaling Tree

I also see a lot of talk of infinite cardinals and a bunch of terms I have no context to so I have no idea how to quantify them. Best I can tell, Cardinals are the equivalent to my Magniverse?

Okay so I'm assuming this is SSJ4 Xeno Goku at his peak?

If so then the scaling would go something like...

Ultimate Shenron >= Xeno Goku SS4 >= Full-Power Demigra (Death Incarnate) >= Death (Entity) > Xeno Goku SS3 > Xeno Goku SS2 > Xeno Goku SS1 > Xeno Goku (Base, Post Timeskip) >  Xeno Goku (Super Saiyan Kaioken times 10 Million Pre-Timeskip) >= Jiren (Limit Break) > Broly (Limit Break) > Final Form Mira >= Demigra (w/Toki Toki's Egg) >= Primal Goku (Limit Breaker Kaioken) > Goku Black (Black Star Dragon Ball Fusion) > Full Power Fu (No Boost) > Xeno Freeza (Golden) > Jiren (Time Breaker) >= Primal Goku (Divine Rage Kaioken) > Max Power Fu (Base) > Xeno Goku SS4 (Pre-Timeskip) > Primal Goku (Base) > Xeno Goku SS3 (Pre-Timeskip) > King Cold (Time Breaker) > Xeno Goku (Pre-Timeskip) > Towa (Base, Full Power) > FW2 (SSB) >= FW (SS3) > Standard DBH Scaling Tree

And this is being conservative, I could go significantly higher with more amounts of characters going all the way back to when the series first began and was only around Canon DBH Level (Although canon DBH would also be 2-B).

Durability is... above. Yeah.

So I'll be letting you clarify the AP since I for the life of me cannot decipher the explanation besides "Something something infinite cardinal".

Speed:

Dark Countess > FW (Max Transformations + Kaioken) > FW (All other variations of transformations)

She also has a bunch of "Maybe" Immeasurable speeds but OP specified MFTL+.

So problem with "Moving in Planck time is", this isn't actually a thing. Planck instances are a measurement of time. You can't move at the speed of time. Like, you can't move at the speed of 5 PM. For this to be a quantifiable feat, you'd need to have a distance along with the planck instance for it to have a number.

As for Xeno Goku, well, he scales to Jiren's casual 2.4163569e+64 times FTL feat which DBG Mid-Tiers scale to, let alone High-Tiers like Xeno Goku.

So yeah. Go ahead and quantify the "Planck Time" feat and then I'll judge ;P

Stamina:

Possibly Xeno Goku for having Godly to Dark Countess' Unknown.

Intelligence:

Outsmarting Nigh-Omniscients would require you to basically be Supergenius at minimum or Nigh-Omniscient yourself?

Xeno Goku is absolutely a Genius in many respects; Academically as well as Tactically. He's proclaimed as one of the most Prodigous Gokus known to the Time Patrol and overnight, with no teacher and with no extra schooling in comparison to his canon counterpart, learned enough about Quantum, Temporal and Astral Physics to keep up with Xeno Bulma. Something Million-year-old Kais who's dedicated themselves to study still has a hard time grasping. He's that insane.

So, like much above, I'll let you clarify her reasoning before I cast judgement.

Techniques:

Dark Countess opens with Conceptual Staff. From the way it's described, it's literally the equivalent of Xeno Goku's Power Pole and more specifically, Photonic Power Pole. So I think it's fair they cancel out for the most part.

Demonic Raizer would be useful, although Xeno Goku would be able to use Instant Transmission Spam to get out of dodge, Create his own pocket dimension and trap the bullets in there, Mafuuba the bullets into the ground, use Hakai to counter and erase it and possibly Dark Countess with, or assuming he has it, use Ultimate Mirror and send them right back.

So I'm going to be honest, Xeno Goku pretty much outhaxes. He's also dealt with Conceptual attacks before so her attacks aren't going to be completely out of left field for him. And for the haxes that she does have, Goku has the arsenal to almost perfectly counter.

The only hax that Dark Countess has that can feasibly affect Xeno Goku would be Probability Manipulation, although this might not even be enough since Xeno Goku's 6th Sense would allow him to get a heads up on this ability and plan accordingly or end the fight quicker.

This is all barring the fact that, as DMUA wonderfully put it, Xeno Goku has almost the pitch-perfect counter for Dark Countess' resilience (Immortality, Abstract Existence and Regeneration). High-Godly, Abstract Existence, and dealing with Immortals.

So that's my analysis for now. I won't vote since there's a lot of clarifying to do but honestly, I don't like Dark Countess' chances here.