Board Thread:Versus Battles/@comment-28510017-20180105000823/@comment-5328136-20180105033832

Ma boi emo is being used : D

Though this is a toughie... Speed equalized and 6-C.

Barry can easily end Ultra Emo with the Speed Force BFR since I don't know if he has an answer to that. He doesn't have the capability to teleport out of dimensions so if it's an attack that can't be dodged Ultra Emo would be hit hard. On the other hand Time Travel seems dangerous too considering it could allow Barry to get clones of his own which doesn't suffer as much from power weakening unlike Ultra's clones.

That said is the BFR his opening move? His time stop and slow down are nice and would allow a few hits till Ultra starts using barriers. Their raw output is a tie but as the battle goes it will lean onto Ultra's advantage. Especially considering even danmaku hitting a shield or being blocked by an enemy is a sufficient requirement to increase his stats via his Semblance. Their shields are strong but Ultra's are more potent for counterattacks which means if Barry doesn't have range attacks it might be an issue for him. Sealing may also work for Ultra against Barry since it could lock people in place, but if he doesn't follow up with an instant death effect, which could OHKO Barry, this could lead to him getting BFRed via Speed Force.

Now here's something that could seriously affect the battle. Barry's precognition, and Ultra's nullification, and the relation between clones/teleportation and speed steal

I need a bit more context on Barry's precognition on his description but if it basically tells Barry important critical moments such as when he could die and when he could take out the opponent, the advantage becomes on his side. Because that means he knows when to avoid situations and would prevent his own death. On the other hand if being BFRed is something Ultra senses is about to happen, he could use power null to possibly prevent that. But then there's the issue of speed steal. If all of Ultra's speed has been stolen, could he still get away with teleportation? Could he summon clones that have regular speed since they're different from him or are their speed lowered too? Cause iirc Speed Steal can't steal reaction speed?

They can both take out each other quickly. But if this leads to a long term battle advantage moves towards Ultra. Also can BFR work on multiple enemies?