Board Thread:Versus Battles/@comment-27574279-20191230042452/@comment-27574279-20191231090029

I guess I'll redo my arguments because I admittedly forgot some stuff about Jay that's really important to this battle.

Jay ends up with an over 6x AP advantage thanks to Sticky Fingers, and he spams elemental magic similarly to Ethan. Jay's magic also has the added advantage of being inherently reality warping and info-manipulation in nature, which Ethan doesn't resist in this key. Saving throws won't stop jay from being damaged by attacks, but jay's stolen durability and constantly-on aura shield will, and they will stop them from auto-negating his regeneration.

Fire/Ice/Lightning can negate demon regen because those types of magic are typically better at directly damaging cells, which isn't gonna happen with what I said above.

What's worth noting is that Ethan doesn't have any method of seeing Jay's aura or knowing how it works, and Jay can still his senses, rendering him blind, deaf, paralyzed, etc. Hell, he can even steal his fighting skills and intelligence, something he took advantage of. Jay's main aura reaches out to 150 feet, but he can focus that to go out WAY more, basically giving him invisible projectiles and blasts, as well as things like tethers and even enhancing his weapons with them to give them extra range. It's thought-based, and Ethan has no way to know what it is or how it's activated. All he gets is that Jay was able to steal his power through completely unknown means.

Ethan's main attacks are spamming elements, and Jay likes to directly chomp down on magic (something he takes advantage of against every mage he fights, even against things that would otherwise kill him), that means he's going to get Ethan's abilities just by eating them as they come. Jay gets severely stronger, faster, and tougher right off the bat, and that gap just continues to grow the more the battle goes on. Even if Ethan can damage him (which even doing that will prove difficult), Jay's high-mid regen and saving throws stop anything he does from lasting. Even if Ethan manages to damage Jay heavily, second wind kicks in and turns this into a sheer AP stomp FAST.

Anything fire, ice, or lightning-related gets nullified by Jay's aura, which can take on those properties. He's dealt with fire/ice/thunder users before using that direct strategy, by literally absorbing their attacks and turning them against them. Jay has a LOT Of methdos of taking powers from others.

Ethan's strategies of laying traps and trying to run away is countered by Jay's enhanced senses. He's seriously on three different layers: Having incredibly enhanced hearing to the point of sonar, being able to see souls and mana, and having instinctive reactions that work even against danmaku. That counters clone sneak attacks and it means Jay will always know where Ethan is.

Overall, Ethan just doesn't have a good counter he can get off in time. It's not a stomp, as Ethan could definitely figure out a way to beat him given time, but Jay has too many bases covered for that to be a reliable victory.

In short, don't underestimate the powers of a grimoire.