Board Thread:Versus Battles/@comment-37173421-20190417135700/@comment-24900075-20190422060108

So! Sorry I have poofed over the weekend. I've just been dying with life so I couldn't really spend time on here.

Okay so! Let's get to debating some stuff!

Yeah Drag debated for me pretty well.

Point in my argument about Mebius' EE was that he went from absolutely nill resistance to EE to completely no-selling 2-A EE. He jumped from no resistance to 4D Resistance with a singular experience with EE. That level of resistance jumping far surpasses the jump for 4D to 5D resistance.

"Also, coming back from EE is Mid-Godly, so..."

I gotta quickly address this, but Drag's point is that your character regenerated from EE is because your soul is separated from your body. Your soul didn't get EE'd along with the body. So you regenerated from the soul.

This is different from Neo Mebius who had absolutely everything EE'd and yet still came back.

"3. Reality manipulation resistance =/= existence erasure manipulation. I still don’t really get what you’re trying to say, and it honestly just sounds like esoteric NLF of “I can’t be hurt”."

What I'm saying is that erasing all of reality would do nothing to Mebius since he doesn't need reality to function. The absence of reality does nothing. Also EE Manipulation isn't a thing.

Your argument above was that Mebius would get EE'd on his every dimensional level so he wouldn't be able to do anything. My argument was that this move would do nothing to impede Mebius since he '''does not require reality to function at all. '''

"4. Doesn’t quite work like that. Existence is existence, and non-existence is non-existence. The Collective can recover from non-existence, same as Neo."

... Okay? Non-Existence is literally a thing within canon Ultraman (With the being known as Greeza) and that didn't stop Ultraman X (The Ultra that fought Greeza) from exploding his butt.

Also the Final Mebius, as noted in his feats, is an attack similar to The Living Pantheon's Celestial Judgement. The Celestial Judgement is the same attack that cannot be resisted nor negated. Sounds familiar doesn't it?

Anyways it completely 1-shots Void Entities. Without getting into the specifics of Void Entities, The Void as a place is described as "It is not merely a lack of Existence, but a pure lack of anything or non-thing". Despite how paradoxical it is (Because The Void doesn't care about what you think is logical), The Void is both more and less than non-existence and existence.

I mean there's also the fact that they predate Existence itself so they're naturally non-existent but meh.

"Also, how does making a claim make me a hypocrite? It’s hard for me to screenshot something that’s not there. If it is there, please show me, since I’m not seeing the description of what this “essence” is, nor his connection to tier 0 guys."

I'm too lazy to screenshot it but I CAN copy and paste. Soooo

1. "Mebius' closest equivalent to as soul (Essence) is also now protected by an "aura" of Baraghi Energy; What an "essence" entails is unexplained however"

2. "Noa later gives Mebius a vision telling him that Mebius wields a Pure Connection to the Power of Baraghi only equalled by he himself and that it's power cannot be misused"

First one is the mentioning of his essence. If you actually read my feats, you'd already know that the description of Essence is left ambiguous. But besides the point, I already made it clear that it is his closest equivalent to his soul, not that it actually is. He has no soul after he... well, lost it.

2nd one is the connection of Mebius to Baraghi, my Tier 0 that I've brought up repeatedly.

So yeah. Something that's not there?