Board Thread:Versus Battles/@comment-36846645-20190818225105/@comment-24900075-20190826072136

I'll probably poof after this post so get someone to spam me on Discord if you want me to reply! Alright so!

"Teyza scales to being stronger than Zufalia who has deastroyed 7,473,848 multiverses. Beerus had destroyed many magniverses. So i ask how many universes is one multiverse in both verses?"

Well first of all, we need to get a scaling chain down.

Beerus (Full Power) >> Ultimate Shenron >= Xeno Goku SS4 >= Full-Power Demigra (Death Incarnate) >= Death (Entity) > Xeno Goku SS3 > Xeno Goku SS2 > Xeno Goku SS1 > Xeno Goku (Base, Post Timeskip) >  Xeno Goku (Super Saiyan Kaioken times 10 Million Pre-Timeskip) >= Jiren (Limit Break) > Broly (Limit Break) > Final Form Mira >= Demigra (w/Toki Toki's Egg) >= Primal Goku (Limit Breaker Kaioken) > Goku Black (Black Star Dragon Ball Fusion) > Full Power Fu (No Boost) > Xeno Freeza (Golden) > Jiren (Time Breaker) >= Primal Goku (Divine Rage Kaioken) > Max Power Fu (Base) > Xeno Goku SS4 (Pre-Timeskip) > Primal Goku (Base) > Xeno Goku SS3 (Pre-Timeskip) > King Cold (Time Breaker) > Xeno Goku (Pre-Timeskip) > Towa (Base, Full Power) > FW2 (SSB) >= FW (SS3) > Demigra (Base) = Destroyed an Unfathomably large amount of Magniverses no Word, Godly or otherwise, can describe.

A single Magniverse is sort of its own self-contained bubble of Uncountable Possibilities of Timelines; Demigra destroyed an uncountable amount of these, and this Demigra is straight at the bottom of the scaling chain.

"So would Beerus be able to seal someone like himself up? If so then Beerus should have no problem sealing Teyza away however if he can't a simple rule of thumb can be applied couldn't?"

Beerus' Sealing is fairly simple. He points at something, points at a target, and the 1st pointed thing goes into the 2nd thing. We don't know its exact potency but he commented on how utterly weak Chronoa's Sealing job was that sealed Demigra that it only held him for a few Million Years (The same Demigra that did... that up there) so it's at least fairly potent.

" Zen’O has a superior one cause his scaling is higher."

Nah, Zen'O has a superior one because his "True" form is 1-A.

I'm going to be 100% honest here, but I'm pretty sure Beerus has an absolutely insane AP Advantage. Not only does a single Magniverse encompass "Every Possibility" of a particular bubble of Timelines (Which alone is a ludicriously high degree of 2-B and what the current DBH/DBX Characters on the main Wiki scales to basically), but Demigra who's utter fodder was able to destroy an uncountable, unfathomably large amount of these Magniverses.

On the subject of Beerus' Incomplete Ultra Instinct. While yes it's mainly focusing on Defense, when on offense he has taught himself to "turn off" Ultra Instinct temporarily to allow his normal fighting Prowess take over so that it doesn't impede him. Or alternatively, as on his profile, he could leave it on and instead rely on Ultra Instinct + Hakai/Ki Blast Combo as his UI is strictly incomplete only in the CQC department (Hence why it's noted he still has extreme mastery); he chains his Hakais and blasts perfectly fine whilst in Ultra Instinct.

As for Mentifery, Beerus actually does indeed have an equivalent to this.

"Reality Warping: As a high-level Deity, he naturally gains this ability. He uses it multiple times on small-scale events such as warping in more resources for human chefs to cook with, warping in Gold so that Bulma can be even more rich, and recreating Planet Vegeta as a Reward for the Saiyan's efforts. On a larger scale, he's shown to be capable of ripping holes in universes in order to venture outside of it and even recreating an entire magniverse."

So if Teyza attempts to use her Imagination to gain an advantage, Beerus could theoretically Warp Reality as to counter her. Either that or just Hakai the Multiverse to get rid of it so that she is forced to stop her Imagination shenanigans.

And if Teyza is going to do anything overtly fatal or dangerous to Beerus in the near/immediate future, he gets premonitions about it prior. So "Pulling the rug" under Beerus is actually less effective against him since he'd get a heads-up notice of it.

I'm sort of too tired to go over the rest of your messages so can someone sum up the other points of confusion with Beerus?